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  • Yuppers, Robin McKinley's Damar books/stories are good. But (and I HATE to say this) I haven't loved any of her books in the last ten yeras or so. I've liked all of them, certainly enjoyed them, but not loved them as I do Beauty, The Blue Sword, and The Door in the Hedge. Still, her most recent, Sunshine was fun and a nice change of pace into vampires and chocolate.

    And yes, oh, yes, The Dark Lord of Derkholm is one of my favorite Wynne-Jones. DB, have you read the Dalemark Quartet, yet? That's another grouping of hers I'd recommend.
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    • Diana Wynne Jones is awesome! Dark Lord of Derkholm and Year of the Griffin are both really funny. I also like the Chronicles of Chrestomanci and Eight Days of Luke. Chronicles of Chrestomanci are set in a parallel universe that is similar to ours, but has a ton of magic. Eight Days of Luke is an updated Norse myth, but involving really funny modern characters and all the gods look like modern people.
      Robin McKinley writed great books too. I haven't read Sunshine though. What's it about?

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      • I meant the black shiny stuff you have in America. If it has beads on it or sequins or scarves or a tinch of glitter or color, it's ok, but plain black is so drab, it's asking for a ticket to the nibble table. That's where all the unwanted girls hang out. It's really sad. I feel really sorry, especially because I'm one of them...*snicker*
        I like Robin McKinley.
        I read the Hero and the Crown. It's kind of weird, but good when you're on an eight-hour flight.

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        "Not all treasure is silver and gold, mate." "But why is the rum gone?" --both from Captain Jack Sparrow, "Pirates"

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        • Diana Wynne Jones is awesome! I especially love Dark Lord of Derkholm, a Tale of Time City, and the third of the Chronicles of Chrestomanci, whose name I can't recall at the moment...but it's the one with those two families who hate each other.

          Wow! We're getting close to a hundred pages...actually we'd already be there if those hadn't gotten deleted. And M, I think this site is closing in on its 2-year anniversary, because when I found it the boards weren't even open to members yet. I joined very soon after they opened, and that was June 2002. This particular topic is seven to eight months old.

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          There is no right way or wrong way, you just have to live
          And so I do what I do, and at least I exist;
          What could mean more than this?"
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          • I have 2 Diana Wyane Jones books, haven't read them yet though. I was going to get the Chronicles of Chrestomanci, but decided to wait. The two I have are The Dalemark Quartet,and The Merlin Conspiracy both look really cool!
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            • Yeah, I've read The Blue Sword and The Hero and the Crown, and I really enjoyed them. I only recently picked up Spindle's End by McKinley, and loved it, and went on a reasonably successful McKinley hunt. You're right, Beauty was really good. Not sure if that's my favourite, though....

              And I also like DWJ, of course. I got The Merlin Conspriracy for my best friend, and later on read it myself- it's good, kind of half-way between The Homeward Bounders, which I like a lot and make an effort to re-read frequently, and... oh... *thinks hard* Some parts are very Dalemark Quartetesque.

              Sam! *hugs* You poor thing. I know how it feels- I hope it all fixes up. *kicks computers*

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              • The Merlin Conspiracy is slow in the beginning, but once it picks up it's really good.

                Obviously most of these boards are dedicated to the books, as most of its members are but Chatter II and The Topic of Great Randomness, which is a topic that I started but then got so big that it got its own forum, are for the random, non-Young Wizards chat stuff. We ask that it stays there. Also, it's a big thing around here, but DD herself pays for these poems, so please THINK before you write. Please, no one-line posts, or, (God forbid!) one-WORD posts. But I'm sure that'll be no problem.
                Tui: You might want to change that part that says 'The Topic of Great Randomness that I started' to 'The Topic of Great Randomness that [Ella] started.

                Does that really say 'poems'?? I meant 'forums'.

                Ah well. Off to read.

                *Ella*

                "'Do we start kicking now?'
                'No, Spongebob, that's a chorus line.'"
                -Spongebob Squarepants
                *Ella*
                "But the night rolls around, and it all starts making sense
                There is no right way or wrong way, you just have to live
                And so I do what I do, and at least I exist;
                What could mean more than this?"
                --Bright Eyes

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                • Yay, I got an email!

                  I was reading a lot of the day... read somehting titled "Throwaway Daughter." It was an okay book, nothing awful, nothing spectacular. But there was one thing that made me pause for a sec. See, in China, when the One Child law was passed, people, especially in the country, saw boys as better. They carried on the family name- I mean, yeah, girls keep their name when their married, but the kids take the father's family name. So a lot of fathers then, killed their daughters when they were born, so they could try again for a son.

                  I thought that was just disgusting. Even if it was twenty some years ago.

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                  • Yerss, I shall. *rolls eyes* This is what happens when you copy/past wholesale bits without checking them for consistency: sorry, Ella.

                    *shouts to the forum in general* Yo! If you weren't around at the time, I must inform you that ELLA started this Topic of Fantasticalness. NOT me. And while you're at it, go be nostalgic and read her State-of-the-Forum address on the first page. It's all about the free will of us to get off topic, so I think it rules.

                    Hmm, I kind of liked "poems," myself. It has a hint of sarcasm or irony, while also being kindly and, well, poetic- not the prosaic "posts," but "poems," reflecting the thought we put into them.

                    ...OK, so maybe it's MOSTLY sarcasm. I still like it.

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                    • I checked and yes, I have read The Dark Lord of Derkholm. I should go borrow some other DWJ stuff. (note 'should.' ppc has very little initiative. oh well.)
                      Aurora: Yes...there's still a surprising amount of prejudice there...Anyway, I think the attitude dates way, way back to when girls were thought of as sort of upper-class slaves, to be bought and sold and expected to manage things when they became matriarchs...

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                      • Well, The Year of the Griffin is Dark Lord of Derkholm's sequel so you should read it. I'm reading Hero and teh Crown right now because I got a Robin Mckinley box set so. Oh crap, I gotta get to class. I'll be back later!

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                        • Robin McKinley is really good! I haven't read very much of her stuff. I never can find it here. I love going to http://www.barnesandnoble.com and looking at what books relate to hers. A very long time ago, I read The Sword of the Land, by Noel-Anne Brennan. It was very good, and kind of like McKinley.

                          brokencello
                          the crinkled paper bag
                          "Not all treasure is silver and gold, mate." "But why is the rum gone?" --both from Captain Jack Sparrow
                          --Alfredo, Cinema Paradiso
                          brokencello
                          the crinkled paper bag
                          "Not all treasure is silver and gold, mate." "But why is the rum gone?" --both from Captain Jack Sparrow, "Pirates"

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                          • This is totally off subject, but hey? What else is this topic for?
                            Has anyone else noticed that there are fewer posts and fewer people on lately? Last year, or at least for most of it cuz I was wrong, YWW has only just had it's first b-day this June I think.., Anyways, last year there were like a million posts a day, and like 10 people on at a time, Tui, Rysade, Ella, Diego... Even myself, we haven't been coming on as often as we used to... And I'm kinda worried that it might mean that eventually no one will come on anymore.... EVENTUALLY that's gonna happen, but not after only 2 years!!! For those of you who have been on other forums, kli and meteorite maybe, how long did they last? You guys are my friends! I don't want to stop talking... though it will happen eventually... *sniff*

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                            • M: heh...maybe, just maybe, you're being a little bit paranoid? Then again, I haven't been here that long so I have no idea. Anyway, I'm sure we won't die out for a long while yet.
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                              I just found the most adorable crossover pairing! Remus/Angua...it's so sweet. Incidentally, I've only found two fanworks in the entire world for that ship. Rather sad, really. I'm sure there must be loads of people who've read both Rowling and Pratchett...*sigh*
                              </randomness>

                              The important thing about adventures, thought Mr Bunnsy, was that they shouldn't be so long as to make you miss mealtimes.
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                              • Yeah... I guess I'm overreacting... I don't want you guys to leave!!! I'd miss you guys!!
                                Ooh! Has anyone read Eragon? GREAT BOOK!!!! I only got four hours of sleep last night because of it, and I fell asleep during "Student Advisory Time" which has no purpose so it doesn't really matter that I fell asleep.... heh heh. I told one of my best friends that I would finish it last night... But I still had 200 pages left. Fortunatly I drank 2 cans of pop while I was reading... Or I would have fallen asleep earlier in class. DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT, say that you will finish 200 pages in one night if you are a determined person, it's harder than you might think, it took me 3 1/2 hours!!!

                                OOH!!! COOL!! I just found a phone conversation between Philip Pullman, Tamora Pierce, and Christopher Paolini!! He is SOOOOO lucky, he got to speak with two of the most popular authors!! I'm not to fond of Tamora but... STILL!! And obviously you know I like Pullman.
                                http://www.randomhouse.com/teens/eragon/news.htm

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                                [This message was edited by marniebrown1 on 08 January 2004 at 16:11.]
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