do you think the Lone power was right or wrong in creating death and entropy?

[Dragon Writer]

Countryfan1394 said: well even without LP's death and entropy still there would death of the war and other thing I think THE ONE wanted for LP to make death and entropy or it would have taken LP's power back.
but still look @ death as the begining of the reset of entrity

Well, as for the whole still being death from war, I don't think so. I think that if death and entropy hadn't been created, we'd basically have one big time heart. I mean, if i remember correctly, that's how it was orriginally planned. I think all the problems that everyone bring up with having no death and entropy are no so much caused by a lack of death and entropy, but rather from trying to remove it from a place that already has it. (not all, but alot.) I mean, chances are without death and entropy, our bodies would probably be structured differently to hanndle it.
And as for THE ONE taking back the LP's power...I think that the reason THE ONE didn't do that is less that THE ONE wanted death and entropy to exists, and more that THE ONE hoped, like so many of the Powers That Be, that the LP would change back to the side of good, and if they took away the LP's powers...it would make it rather difficult for the LP to turn over a new leaf. And even if the LP could, how would we know the LP was being loyal, the LP could just be waiting to get it's power back, and then go back to its old ways.
Of course, that's just my oppinion. Who knows why THE ONE did what THE ONE did. Except of course that without the LP...well, like kli6 said, (and correct me if i misunderstood you) we wouldn't really have much of a story, now would we?
and by the way, todays sig is only four lines, as is tommorrows. THe day after only has three.

[agfish92]

omg the lone power was soooo right on creating that it goes back to the equal or rather allmost equal you cant have too much evil or to much good.

[Dragon Writer]

omg the lone power was soooo right on creating that it goes back to the equal or rather allmost equal you cant have too much evil or to much good.

That's a good point, the world DOES need balence. BUt at the same time it seems to work out in timeheart, somehow, and

[kagome88888]

i think that death is a good thing, its hard and no one likes to loose someone or be left behind, but i do think that without death we would not enjoy our lives, people would not enjoy the time they had with their family b/c it would never end, and dreams would mean nothing. i dont know if there is a time heart of sorts or not but i do know that it doesnt matter to me, i plan to enjoy life to its fullest and when death comes i can say ive experienced everything i wanted to in life and not get bored. besides, eternal life doesnt mean eternal youth, you could easily be trapped in the pain of old age, my grandma died a few weeks ago and she was more than ready she had been living (if you could call it that) in a very bad state of mind. so yes i do think entropy is a good thing, with or without timeheart.

[Dragon Writer]

you could easily be trapped in the pain of old age, my grandma died a few weeks ago and she was more than ready she had been living (if you could call it that) in a very bad state of mind. so yes i do think entropy is a good thing, with or without timeheart.

well, if there's no entropy you won't really slow down and become usless with age. Other then that...I basically agree with you. I do think there are ways around all that, (check the first post) but I basically agree with everything you said.

[agfish92]

i mean the ballence is everything cause if its gone what to we have but caos(i spelled that wrong) if we dident have death then the world would pretty much stink. i mean u live forever. eventually we all would overpopulate the wourld and we would have to move to the moon then the universe then well you get it.

[Sean L.]

aha, ariel.

yeah, we can't have life without death...i might give you that.

but that doesn't mean death has to be what it is, with the pain and sorrow and suddenness. if death were all better affairs we would still have the change that we need, but without the longing and the loss. it's not death that's bad - it's how it happens.

[Cassandra125]

i think that death was sort of a good idea, but i don't think that when people die, that they should have to suffer, or that people suffer because of the ones that they lost

[airspades]

I believe that The lone one was wrong in creating entropy, but the one and the powers made the best of it. Through entropy beings were given a choice, death( in a pretty lie) or life. because they had to choose and fight, it made that choice all the more valuable.another point, without entropy how would you be able to know how good life is. (its like when u come out of a dark area and see the sun. YOU appreciate it so much more)Pain, may cause people to apprreciate the good so much more, but it ultimately causes PAIN. The ironic thing is the lone one in a way made life more precious, its the not permanent things the fragile things that we have to protect, and through entropy and trying to slow it down u appreciate life in a deeper way. ANYway no the lone power was wrong in creating death, but life found a way to make entropy a tool for good, although it never seems like it. PS bet the lone one realized that and that's why he hates wizards so much.

[Cyber Mirage]

Originally posted by airspades:
its like when u come out of a dark area and see the sun. YOU appreciate it so much more)

I'm sure you appreciate it after it stops blinding you and you are able to see again ^_^

[the_peridexis]

okay, sorry, my last post was way too hasty. here's what i mean: death is necessary. maybe pain is necessary. but if evil did not exist, then pain would not need to exist, because pain teaches us a lesson--sometimes. the LP was justified in creating death, but not suffering, not evil. evil cannot be justified. but now i'm gonna throw you something else--

that was my opinion from the point of view of the books. in real life, i don't think anyone should fear death, because death is reality, and sometimes reality has to be excepted. i don't fear death, because i belive that if i live life to its fullest, then my afterlife will be good. i do not belive in an afterlife to comfort myself, as some atheiests so cynically put it; i believe it because it is truth, and i have every reason to belive it is truth. you may or may not agree with me.

but that is a matter of religion, and a whole 'nother concept.

and in real life, suffering does teach us. for instance, we can cure world hunger. we don't need superplants and crap, we just need to get our lazy, selfish selves up and do it. if all the people in the world weren't so greedy, no one would starve. i mean, check out all the rich people in this world. couldn't the food they have eaten and the money they have spent have gone to a better cause? i'm not saying you're a bad person if you're rich!!!i am saying we should do something about the sorry state of our world, especially if we have the meansto do so. which means if you do happen to be rich, how hard would it be to give a little? suffering does teach us, but only if we are willing to listen.

-peri (wow, that was quite a ramble!)

[airspades]

i understand what u mean about not having to fear death, and the lessons we learn from pain and death. But in my opinion death and pain aren't necessary, they are in "our way of looking at things" but ulitimately pain causes well pain and more pain. if the lone one would have created death, because of the one. It would have be justified, but no i created death out of envy, spite, and hatred. It wanted people to suffer, not to learn a lesson through pain and death. I think that was the one and the other powers that made death and pian have a purpose sometimes. but the lone one was/is/ will not be justified ever for it's evil creation with anevil purpose. THe powers just taught to find "life" in death.

[Dragon Writer]

at the same time, however, if there's no evil then what's the point of good? if there's no choice but the right choice, where's the choice at all? or is just that you can do THIS good thing or THIS good thing? how would we grow, and change? and even if we did, where would the free will be? can there truly be a choice if all other options are closed off to us? also, it's been said that a purity cannot exist by itself...maybe in a place where the universe is so fundementally DIFFERENT as too exclude entropy it would be different, but still...things generally need a ballance. a world where everyone's happy, not because everythings going right for them, but simply because there's no other way to BE doesn't neccessarily sound GOOD to me! anyways, i look forward to hearing your arguments.

[Rhi]

A flashlight doesn't work well in a brightly lit room, you turn out the lights when you light birthday cake candles, and the stars can't be seen in the daytime. I agree, yr, there has to be balance, contrast. I do think, though, that there could be "a world where everyone's happy", the people's perception of life would have to be fundamentally different than ours, though.

[Dragon Writer]

there COULD be a world where everyone's happy...but would you want there to be? would you WANT to live in a world where everything is perfect, every moment of the day, and there's quite simply no other way for things to be? no problems, no complications, and therefore no development and no real life...the only way for everyone to be happy is enforced happiness, as someone once told me, i believe...a happiness that everyone feels not because it's their own perfect world, matching all their dreams, but because they have no CHOICE but to be happy, because they CAN"T feel restive, and wanting for adventure, or simply some kind of CHANGE from everlasting bliss that just goes on and on without changing...is it really something we'd want? i suppose they could fullfill everyone's one particular dream world, but still...wouldn't you WANT some emotions other then constant happiness? eventually, wouldn't it get just a tad bit boring? *looks forward to hearing arguments and having debates...during which i'll most likely go to both sides, because i have oppinions on both sides*