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  • Ardub
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    Originally posted by Diane Duane View Post
    ...The only thing I can add to this is the suggestion that if I was going to hide myself in a book this way, I'd either (a) be a lot more obvious about it or (b) be completely indetectable.
    Aha, I think I found you in type (b)! ;-)

    In HW, in the Crossings bar, Dairine was helped out by The Doctor. But of course he wouldn't be out adventuring alone, he'd have a Companion with him. I assert that you're the unmentioned but implicit person sitting down for a drink in the Crossings with the Doctor!

    How's that for tortured logic?

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  • Garrett Fitzgerald
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    Originally posted by Diane Duane View Post
    ...The only thing I can add to this is the suggestion that if I was going to hide myself in a book this way, I'd either (a) be a lot more obvious about it or (b) be completely indetectable.
    Well, I know which short story fits (a) -- have you done (b) yet? :-) And if so, where?

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  • Ardub
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    Originally posted by Diane Duane View Post
    I looked at that and thought, "I need something a little shorter..."
    Heh, good thing this was before bound books... "Scribe! Engrave this on the spine!" Seems like that wouldn't be a bad gig, writing books meant to be read only by the dead. An "emperor's new clothes" scenario -- you could stall the publisher endlessly, demanding additional advances, and remind them that if they ever proofread you, then surely they will die.

    Originally posted by Diane Duane View Post
    ...The only thing I can add to this is the suggestion that if I was going to hide myself in a book this way, I'd either (a) be a lot more obvious about it or (b) be completely indetectable.

    Nonetheless: nice theory. (applause)
    Thanks! Well, maybe we're looking at this from the wrong direction, and the Powers hid the book in your name... You know, in the grand tradition of herioc literature where the protagonist's lifelong quest is to make good on their name, you could take this as confirmation that you've been on the right path all along. :-)

    ...or... that a very different destiny awaits

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  • Daisy
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    Finally! The answer!!

    Thanks for reveling that Ardub!! I would never have thought of that either.

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  • Rad
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    Wow, I would have never thought of that. And it is completely coincidental! I've had similar occurrences, but nothing that epic. Congrats, Ardub! You've made my day.

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  • Diane Duane
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    Originally posted by Ardub View Post
    I had been thinking about the name "Diane" (in the context of someone else) and my mind made a mental checkmark that it was a Roman name-for / goddess-of the moon. Then a mental jump to this Diane, and a sudden thought: Moon... Diane... I wonder if there's any chance that "Duane" could mean... so I looked it up... Gaelic for Darkness, Black, occasionally Night!

    The Book of Night with Moon is "The Book of Diane Duane"...
    Hmm. Fascinating theory.

    ...And nothing that ever crossed my mind. The Book's title came out of a rereading of Budge's early work on Egyptian mythology, The Gods of the Egyptians, where Budge spends some time talking about the Pert em Hrw or Chapters of Coming Forth By Day -- what in English is usually referred to as "The Egyptian Book of the Dead"; but its full title is here --

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/egy/bat/bat03.htm

    I looked at that and thought, "I need something a little shorter..." But I realized I wanted something in the "Book of X doing Y" format. Eventually as the plot for SYW... firmed itself up, I sat down and thought, "Okay. What are the important things about this instrumentality? It's a book. You need moonlight to read it. Probably makes more sense if it's dark at the same time." Book. Night. Moon. Voila.

    ...The only thing I can add to this is the suggestion that if I was going to hide myself in a book this way, I'd either (a) be a lot more obvious about it or (b) be completely indetectable.

    Nonetheless: nice theory. (applause)

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  • estar9821
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    Russel Square.

    Thank goodness, Ardub FINALLY said the pun...

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  • Ardub
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    Great, permission! :-)

    I had been thinking about the name "Diane" (in the context of someone else) and my mind made a mental checkmark that it was a Roman name-for / goddess-of the moon. Then a mental jump to this Diane, and a sudden thought: Moon... Diane... I wonder if there's any chance that "Duane" could mean... so I looked it up... Gaelic for Darkness, Black, occasionally Night!

    The Book of Night with Moon is "The Book of Diane Duane"

    How's that for poetic? An eponymous book buried at the heart of this series. That can't be coincidence, can it? My recent post reviving this thread was when I discovered a short story collection by the author of Dune, called "The Book of Frank Herbert" - I imagined TBoNwM might be a subtle nod to that.

    So, I plead not guilty to stringing everyone along on a wild goose chase - whether intentional or serendipitous, I really do think it's a great pun! (And "personal" enough that I didn't want to risk the wrath of the Moon by spilling it!)

    By the way, I could take the analysis (another?) step too far by pointing out that in the books, people hear the Speech in their own language, thus the over-translation of the non-English-origin "Diane" and "Duane" into their English counterparts when people try and say the name of the Light book...

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  • Tuttle
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    Hm, I can't find what was done in the Mornington Crescent mystery hunt puzzle so I can't use that to make my move .

    However, this just means I'm going to be reminded of books from growing up and move to
    Paddington Station

    In terms of the pun, I had completely ignored that it might possibly exist because of how much it was being "hidden". If people are going to be pushing so hard in both directions for finding one, then its not worth my time to search, especially when its gone on for years.

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  • Birdhead
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    Oooh, Ardub got told! Cheeky.

    Because players must take every opportunity to give other players earworm, I really must go to

    Paekakariki Station

    (Because Paekakariki boys are cheeky/Wainuiomata girls are smarter. Which I will now be sing-songing to myself all night.)

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  • Lazy Leopard
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    Originally posted by Diane Duane View Post
    Also: I am now inventing Duane's Law, which on the Forums shall be construed to mean: "Any time a thread degrades into a game of Mornington Crescent, it's time to explain what's been going on." Or something like that.
    Well, I was listening to Melvyn Bragg and some interesting but slightly pompous discussion about the development of cities, but then I read that...

    Oh. Ah! Of course!

    Canal Street!
    Last edited by Lazy Leopard; April 1, 2010, 05:15:09 AM.

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  • Kathy Li
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    SpacePen, I thought semi-Lateral Shunts put you in Nid. Live and learn.

    Originally posted by Diane Duane View Post
    ... I am now inventing Duane's Law, which on the Forums shall be construed to mean: "Any time a thread degrades into a game of Mornington Crescent, it's time to explain what's been going on." Or something like that.
    Oh, we are so playing more Mornington Crescent, now.

    La Cienaga Blvd.

    Is the pun multilingual because they all translate to the same term in language X (say, Latin)?

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  • Lee Enfield-Burke
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    Originally posted by Daisy View Post
    Would someone please explain what Mornington Crescent is?

    Also, what is this pun?!? I can't figure it out?
    It's all here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morning...ent_%28game%29

    (But not the pun.)
    Last edited by Lee Enfield-Burke; March 31, 2010, 05:35:34 PM.

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  • Daisy
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    Would someone please explain what Mornington Crescent is?

    Also, what is this pun?!? I can't figure it out?

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  • Diane Duane
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    Okay, enough is enough

    This has been going on for how many years now?!

    Somebody had better tell us all what this pun is that I've alleged to have made, or I may come out in hives.

    Also: I am now inventing Duane's Law, which on the Forums shall be construed to mean: "Any time a thread degrades into a game of Mornington Crescent, it's time to explain what's been going on." Or something like that.
    Last edited by Diane Duane; March 31, 2010, 07:39:18 AM. Reason: Busted HTML or some such

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