Symbolism of the computer logo

[Tabby]

The Apple logo, but without a bite taken out of it. The Biblical Fall, humanity's Choice. Eating of the fruit. Unbitten apple = a choice not taken, a Fall completely avoided. Why am I just recognizing the symbolism now?

-Tabby
the princess with claws

[Rysade]

Hmmmm.... mmmmaybe you're reading too far into it. It is interesting, though. Perhaps... voicing an ideal? The universe without entropy would have a lot more apples without bites in them.

--Dai Stihó

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"It was a bad line and a prank call, someone spouting insane babble; I couldn't make sense of it. But I had an overwhelmeing sense of deja vu, and the caller's voice sounded oddly familiar."

[PK]

*blinks* Reading too far into it? I'd say that one might not be an immediate connection for everyone to make if they're reading through quickly to find out what happens next, but honestly... it seems to me like too clear a reference once you do spot it to be "reading too much in." At least for anyone familiar with the stories and motifs involving, as either Nita or Kit remarks during S'reeee's explanation in DW, "snakes and apples." *grins* Of course, Nita herself thinks that the Lone Power's serpent-form in that book is the truth behind all the stories of a snake lurking at the bottom of the world or sea (I can't remember the phrasing, sorry), so I admit I do tend to assume that if something looks like it might be an allusion it probably is. I'm sure there are ones I'm not familiar with the background for and don't get, too, of course.

[Birdhead]

That occured to me... at some point. Actually, I think someone here mentioned it, way back. But I'd say that the allusion is pretty definite, yeah.

As to why you didn't get it... well, I wouldn't be the best person to ask, because I suspect it took me a while to click too.

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[Diane Duane]

Originally posted by Tabby:
The Apple logo, but without a bite taken out of it. The Biblical Fall, humanity's Choice. Eating of the fruit. Unbitten apple = a choice not taken, a Fall completely avoided.

Or a reference to a pre-Fall state. Otherwise, yup, exactly what I had in mind.

I'm still waiting for Apple to give me a free Mac as a "thank-you", though.

-- DD

[This message was edited by Diane Duane on 03 December 2003 at 5:07.]

[Kathy Li]

It's because you made it run DOS, not NeXT.

[CelticFlame]

Originally posted by Diane Duane:
Or a reference to a pre-Fall state. Otherwise, yup, exactly what I had in mind.

Really, I so did not catch on to that. Wow....

[Avi]

Yeah isn't DOS for windows? (MS-DOS) Isn't Mac like something os?

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[FireWitch]

Just a side comment:

It was so weird when I read the computer bits in the book, because I used a computer like that when I was about 3 and it brought back all these weird flashes of my childhood. Whatever programming system it was, it was cool!

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[Tabby]

*does the dance of "I love being right!"*

-Tabby
the princess with claws

[Avi]

DD one other company should be giving you something....

a LIFE TIME supply of Coke! I mean just think about it how much Coke do you think the characters drink? I mean almost whenever Nita or Kit goto Carls and Toms house what do they get the drink water?, Orenge Juice?, Toxic waste?....NO! Coke!

.....OK That was interesting.....

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[Caledonian]

Perhaps it would useful to find out why the Apple computers were associated with that symbol in the first place. While you may be reading too much into the image, Diane probably wouldn't have avoided a modification of the RL logo that also had a secondary, symbolic significance.

To be wise, learn foolishness. To be strong, learn weakness. To know joy, learn sorrow.

[Caledonian]

And, of course, I just now realize that Diane had already confirmed the hypothesis...

[sigh] All right, bring on the wet noodles and cucumbers.

To be wise, learn foolishness. To be strong, learn weakness. To know joy, learn sorrow.

[GodMageMajere]

Isn't Mac like something os?

Uhh... 'OS' stand for Operating System. ALL computers are something OS. Incidentally, one week till Christmas! Huzzah!

[Birdhead]

Csn't do noodles, sorry. I've got tomatoes, though, if you'd prefer? or some nice healthy eggs?

Christmas! Huzzah!

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